Episode #096 is a cross-post of the When Shit Hits The Fan Podcast episode. I loved the conversation with Johan and Jeff, and I hope you get something out of it as well! You can listen via Spotify (https://bit.ly/3GFTUTy), via Apple (https://bit.ly/4iSiUEh), or anywhere else you get your podcasts! Or just use the embedded player below.
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