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	<title>Comments on: MS Virtualization blogs and VMotion</title>
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		<title>By: Boclin</title>
		<link>http://www.yellow-bricks.com/2008/04/21/ms-virtualization-blogs-and-vmotion/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Boclin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[???] Vmotion only work fine, if somes poor applications.  In real production environment the scenes are very different. Some running applications don&#039;t permit vmotion with Zero downtime.

Hyper-V is very good solution and with System Center Suite, with cheaper host, will be a next big player.

The main point is very easy, after one year with a lot of success cases, virtualization marketshare will be divided with Microsoft(Novell+Citrix) and VMware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[???] Vmotion only work fine, if somes poor applications.  In real production environment the scenes are very different. Some running applications don&#8217;t permit vmotion with Zero downtime.</p>
<p>Hyper-V is very good solution and with System Center Suite, with cheaper host, will be a next big player.</p>
<p>The main point is very easy, after one year with a lot of success cases, virtualization marketshare will be divided with Microsoft(Novell+Citrix) and VMware.</p>
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		<title>By: Things that make you go hmmmm - April 25, 2008 &#124; VM /ETC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Things that make you go hmmmm - April 25, 2008 &#124; VM /ETC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MS Virtualization blogs and VMotion &#8220;Indeed Microsoft can do the same with the use of Clustering. But can you live migrate virtual machines when a server needs maintenance? No, at this moment that’s not possible. In other words, you will have to wait for a suitable moment… planned downtime, probably after business hours. But in a 24×7 environment will there ever be a suitable moment? Even when your business isn’t 24×7, if there’s a possible hardware failure would you want to wait? But when you have a 8:1 consolidation ratio you probably will not be the most popular system engineer when “quick migrating” the file server or the mail server especially when these VM’s have a lot of RAM assigned.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MS Virtualization blogs and VMotion &#8220;Indeed Microsoft can do the same with the use of Clustering. But can you live migrate virtual machines when a server needs maintenance? No, at this moment that’s not possible. In other words, you will have to wait for a suitable moment… planned downtime, probably after business hours. But in a 24×7 environment will there ever be a suitable moment? Even when your business isn’t 24×7, if there’s a possible hardware failure would you want to wait? But when you have a 8:1 consolidation ratio you probably will not be the most popular system engineer when “quick migrating” the file server or the mail server especially when these VM’s have a lot of RAM assigned.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Virtual Enthusiasm</title>
		<link>http://www.yellow-bricks.com/2008/04/21/ms-virtualization-blogs-and-vmotion/comment-page-1/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtual Enthusiasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How far can VMware push the envelope?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I was reading a post by Duncan over at Yellow Bricks about the whole Microsoft blogs trying to compare Quick Migrate to Vmotion from VMware. I found it funny because there really is no comparison at this point. Quick migration is maybe quick, but it is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How far can VMware push the envelope?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I was reading a post by Duncan over at Yellow Bricks about the whole Microsoft blogs trying to compare Quick Migrate to Vmotion from VMware. I found it funny because there really is no comparison at this point. Quick migration is maybe quick, but it is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Eschberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint Eschberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had read that post as well and found it quite entertaining. The ability to have live migration at this time may not prevent downtime for un-planned system failures, but it saves a lot of downtime for planned outages like maintenance, predictive failures, host patching etc.

Continuous Availability and SRM will bring far more to the table in the fairly near future. I personally think Microsoft is further behind than they think. They are still working to get where VMware was in 2.x days where VMware is working two generations ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had read that post as well and found it quite entertaining. The ability to have live migration at this time may not prevent downtime for un-planned system failures, but it saves a lot of downtime for planned outages like maintenance, predictive failures, host patching etc.</p>
<p>Continuous Availability and SRM will bring far more to the table in the fairly near future. I personally think Microsoft is further behind than they think. They are still working to get where VMware was in 2.x days where VMware is working two generations ahead.</p>
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